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[–]aniketandy142025 people will start to realize they are replaceable 114 points115 points  (9 children)

i have already given up on my life plans since this january

[–]SokkaHaikuBot 65 points66 points  (4 children)

Sokka-Haiku by aniketandy14:

I have already

Given up on my life plans

Since this january

Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

[–]aniketandy142025 people will start to realize they are replaceable 43 points44 points  (1 child)

not again you son of a bot

[–]AbheekG 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lol 🤣

[–]DavidOfMidWorld 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Good bot.

[–]IndependenceRound453 [score hidden]  (3 children)

No offense, but this is such a reckless strategy and is pretty extreme even for THIS subreddit. You're basically betting that an AGI/ASI techno-utopia (or dystopia) is right around the corner. If it isn't (which is very plausible for a multitude of reasons), you're gonna regret it. It's much preferable to be safe than sorry.

[–]IronAttom [score hidden]  (0 children)

Even learning things that may be taken over by AGI is still beneficial either way

[–]aniketandy142025 people will start to realize they are replaceable [score hidden]  (0 children)

guess what the job market is already fucked i dont know when i will lose my job to ai luckily i have 2 years of savings but anyway what is the point of planning for future when you dont even know what is going to happen in future

[–]NathanTrese [score hidden]  (0 children)

The disease of this sub is pretending a billion things can go right or wrong. There's always only one thing

[–]matadorius 61 points62 points  (4 children)

I don’t have any intelligence my prime is coming soon 🔥🔥

[–]AssistanceLeather513 -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

Yeah, what is this implying? This is so dumb. Ignorant and tone-deaf.

[–]Carthuluoid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's kind of like gallows humor. We're whistling in the dark here.

[–]dejamintwo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Playing right into his hand lmao...

[–]VanderSound▪️agis 25-27, asis 28-30, paperclips 30s 58 points59 points  (9 children)

How do you plan on the price of intelligence going to 0? Start doing physical work that is also replaced with robots? You can't plan for it essentially, unless you currently have a stack of fiat and bet that it won't go away in the future.

[–]DarkMatter_contract▪️Human Need Not Apply [score hidden]  (0 children)

own stock and stuff that hold value. But honestly no need to prepare. Think what if intelligence cost go to zero actually mean. you can have a phd world leading doctor, astronomer, farmer, 3d designer. Anything is now available to you, that would be post-scarcity. Intelligent is the ability to make the world around bend to our own desires, its what make us on the top of the food chain. Money is just a concept for limited availability goods exchange, 0 price mean unlimited goods.

[–]Temporal_Integrity 30 points31 points  (4 children)

If you want to have a job in the future: Get into nursing.

It doesn't really matter if an AI can do the job better than a human, if people refuse to let a robot take care of grandma. Doctors however are gonna be fucked.

Get into childcare. Same as above.

The last jobs to be taken over by robots will be the jobs we refuse to let an AI do even when AI performs better than humans.

So become a judge. Even if an artificial judge can do a better job (and there's a very cool Spanish scifi movie about this exact thing), you would have to change the legal system to allow a robot to punish a human.

Get into politics. It will be decades before we allow AI to run society.

Get into art. We've been able to buy machine made pottery for decades and still people want artisinal handmade crafts. When it comes to art, it matters to a lot of people that it was made by a human. Not just art now that I think about it. We can make perfect diamonds in a lab, but people will instead pay top dollar for imperfect diamonds harvested from mines.

If you don't want to get a job in the future, buy AI stocks. Personally I've made a lot of money doing this. Don't just buy anything though. AI is definitely in a dotcom bubble right now. I use the comparison because the internet wasn't just a fad. If you bought amazon before the dotcom bubble burst, you'd still be rich today. But there were a lot of bullshit companies that tanked. Use your brain when buying. Do we really need pet food, but with AI?

[–]ClickF0rDick [score hidden]  (1 child)

All the fields you mentioned will become saturated and ultra competitive tho, if they are not already.

There's no solution other than UBI, revolution or be rich.

[–]Euphoric_toadstool [score hidden]  (0 children)

if people refuse to let a robot take care of grandma.

This isn't going to cut it, because when the price difference is a few pennies of electricity for a robot vs feeding and housing a human being, must people won't bat an eye choosing the cheaper option, as long as the robot is not creepy.

And you know what? The robots of tomorrow, coupled with the AI of tomorrow, will be far superior in both competence and compassion.

Get into art.

This has got to be the worst advice ever. How many artists are being f'ed over because of AI? How many posts have I seen on reddit about artists losing their bread and butter, because AI can produce art nearly for free. Get into art if you like art, there can be no other reason.

buy AI stocks.

Or just do your own due diligence and invest in what you think is best. I'm sure there are lots of sectors that will give high yields in the coming years, AI or no AI.

[–]LvxurieAGI Q2 2026 [score hidden]  (0 children)

This is my perspective as well

[–]jedburghofficial [score hidden]  (0 children)

Humans will always be useful as cheap, disposable manual handling units.

Places like India and China have known this for a long time.

[–]BoJackHorseMan53 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Emotional work, learn to market and build human connections.

[–]Euphoric_toadstool [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm growing a vegetable garden 🥲

[–]sdmat 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Hard to argue with that logic if you believe AGI is on the way with ASI behind it.

[–]aguyinphuket [score hidden]  (4 children)

So these companies are spending hundreds of billions of dollars developing artificial intelligence, and the end result is that intelligence will have zero market value?

[–]sdmat [score hidden]  (0 children)

In exactly the same sense a bit of storage space, a floating point operation, or a transistor have approximately zero market value.

[–]Economy_Variation365 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, due to competition from AI, the value of human intelligence will tend ever downward and eventually approach zero.

[–]FeepingCreature▪️Doom 2025 p(0.5) [score hidden]  (0 children)

If you can get a positive takeoff, it would be in the interest of every employee, every boss and every shareholder. It's straight impossible to have so many goods in this world that you would be worse off in that one.

Even in capitalism this makes sense unless you're super ruthless about "I don't care how well off I am in absolute terms at all, I only want to maximize how well off I am in relative terms."

[–]JaMMi01202 [score hidden]  (0 children)

He's saying the cost (to the user) will go to zero.

Like 'Search' is free these days. And Email (mostly). All paid for by the insights your data provides, or someone's ability to surveil you.

The companies that want the AI tools, want you; your data; your behaviours; ways to sell to you; to exploit you. And they'll cover the costs of AI to achieve that end.

[–]pavelkomin 16 points17 points  (0 children)

"All human work is going to be replaced. But you will still have to work... No, I'm not telling you what sort of work will be left for you to do." Probably the shittiest take I've seen so far...

[–]KIFF_82 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Ilya said the same thing a year ago, and I’m fully on board the hype train

[–]Fun_Prize_1256 [score hidden]  (3 children)

How TF are you supposed to plan for a world where "intelligence has zero market value"??

I am so tired of these Silicon Valley types and their grandiose claims. The average Joe is better off just living life like normal.

[–]WonderFactory [score hidden]  (2 children)

> How TF are you supposed to plan for a world where "intelligence has zero market value"??

I think it's just a case of preparing mentally for most people. 3 - 5 years isnt really enough time to save for retirement. There are some things you can do like not getting into debt, or clearing existing debt. I was considering buying a new car this year but I dont want to take out a 5 year loan for this reason.

It's scary to hear this for most people, myself included as I have an intellectual job as a SWE, but even if theres just a 10% chance of it happening I'd rather know. Not knowing and then suddenly being made unemployed in a few years in my mind is worse.

[–]matadorius [score hidden]  (1 child)

You will be safe bro you don’t seem very intelligent don’t worry

[–]fmai 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I think this take has merit, even though there is a lot of uncertainty. It may or may not be this decade, but the cost of intelligence that matches even well-qualified, highly-specialized workers is going to go down within the next few decades.

While individuals should factor this in, I think the more dramatic development is that no government in the world is talking about this. Despite the uncertainty, this should be the #1 political issue. It should be the dominating topic in every election. But it's not seriously being talked about at all!

[–]BrdigeTrlol [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah, this is typical for politics. You need face value to appear voteable and people want resolutions to problems now, not problems 5 to 10 years from now. Especially given that many of your average people probably can't see such a thing happening to them in 5 to 10 years as well at the fact that many voters are older, which is partially because the system is so broken and slanted that many younger people grow up viewing political avenues of change, such as voting, to be a dead end. So the problem will bloom and people will suffer and then, and only then, will it become an election talking point. The future is uncertain (even when it isn't), so only when push comes to shove do most people act.

[–]legshampoo [score hidden]  (0 children)

check out the marc andreeson interview w joe rogan. has some pretty eye opening (tho predictable) things to say about what gov is up to surrounding AI.

they’re basically trying to control it all before it even becomes a topic of public discourse

[–]Tight-Ear-9802 [score hidden]  (0 children)

It seems like my training as a jigaloo might actually led to something fruitful 

[–]designbydesign [score hidden]  (0 children)

Millions of intelligent people realizing that they have nothing to loose? What can go wrong?

[–]nodeocracy 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Can bro elaborate? Am I cooked or are we so back?

[–]often_says_nice 24 points25 points  (1 child)

We’re all cooked, but afterwards we’ll be so back

[–]ClickF0rDick [score hidden]  (0 children)

How about we are all so back rn but cooked starting January 20th

[–]AssistanceLeather513 13 points14 points  (1 child)

You are cooked, but he is not. At least, this is what he arrogantly thinks.

[–]dizzydizzy [score hidden]  (0 children)

he persumably sells his intelligence, I doubt he's done much road digging..

[–]Resident_Citron_6905 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Ah yes, any second now. Keep selling this idea to investors, as long as they keep buying it.

[–]Fun_Prize_1256 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Also, how TF are you supposed to plan for a world where "intelligence has zero market value"??

I am so tired of these Silicon Valley types and their grandiose claims. The average Joe is better off just living life like normal.

[–]stuartullman [score hidden]  (0 children)

sure. basically if you are planning on doing anything with your brain in the future, think again. the best outcome for your future is to fall into a comma.

[–]Utoko [score hidden]  (0 children)

The price of narrow intelligence.

If he is talking about the price of higher general intelligence. You might as well not plan at all. Because the train will hit everything about your life and no one knows what comes after.

[–]Neomadra2 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Great, no please tell me what I should do about that, lol

[–]BackgroundHeat9965 4 points5 points  (1 child)

we're cooked bros

[–]Puzzleheaded-Low7730 4 points5 points  (0 children)

biosphere cleansing killbots, house bots, and whatever other bots all imply one thing

      nvidia goes hockeysticks

[–]totkeks 2 points3 points  (6 children)

With Intelligence he means AI, or information (like CIA uses it), or human intelligence as in the more you have, the better and rarer your job and salary can be?

[–]ryan13mt 26 points27 points  (4 children)

I think he means intellectual work will become close to free in this decade. That means companies or individuals will not be able to sell it. Like companies doing accounts, taxes, audits, programming, etc. And also individuals who do these jobs themselves will not find a job since AI will be doing most of it for free.

[–]Front_Carrot_1486 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's my interpretation too. I think he's using price in the broad sense like you said in that we're heading for a situation where anyone can learn to do anything on their home computer and at the same time automation will have greater impacts on jobs.

Add to that the cost of all of this is going to come down too.

[–]Correct-Explorer-692 2 points3 points  (1 child)

For who?

[–]peakedtooearly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your betters.

/s

[–]Any_Solution_4261 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Well if it's for free it won't earn anything, but if AGI happens that will really reduce the value of intellectual work, as it'll be done for a very low price but the AI instead of it being done for a high price by doctor, lawyer, accountant etc.

[–]ADiffidentDissident 3 points4 points  (0 children)

he means AI and human intelligence

[–]zet23t▪️2100 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I need to start collecting this stuff in a "aged like milk potential" list.

[–]avigard [score hidden]  (1 child)

This would be such a lonely nerd hobby!

[–]zet23t▪️2100 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Perfect for me 🫠

[–]diskdusk [score hidden]  (1 child)

Guys like this said that the society will be completely disrupted by 2019 because zero-cost self-driving cars will be everywhere and all the Truckers and Delivery people will be unemployed.

Turns out some things take longer to become the new norm or "0 cost" than just developing them. And in the end it's the EUs fault because they regulate the corporations instead of letting billionaires run the government.

[–]WonderFactory [score hidden]  (0 children)

Waymo are completing hundreds of thousands of autonomous rides a week in the US, OK its 5 years later than expected but not decades later, the writing is clearly on the wall for delivery people and driver. But even if it takes an extra 5+ years, the notion that intellectual jobs will be gone in a decade is pretty huge.

But it doesnt have to be all or nothing like with driving, if AI is able to partially automate intellectual jobs with a human in the loop it could have a huge impact on employment and wages in the meantime before we reach full automation.

[–]agorathirdAGI internally felt/ Soft takeoff est. ~Q4’23 3 points4 points  (7 children)

The majority of people are service workers. Unless you’re a former c-student who just took on a bunch of debt to try and ride the Compsci gravy train 15 years too late, you should be good.

Or if you have some bullshit procedural job like one of the many office jobs that vanished after digital computing became common place. That also may be no bueno.

[–]cossington 7 points8 points  (6 children)

what happens when there's twice as many people trying to move into service sector work because that's whats left? what happens when that service sector work isnt just a stepping stone and the churn slows down? who are those service people going to sell services to if the non service people dont have money to spend on?

[–]agorathirdAGI internally felt/ Soft takeoff est. ~Q4’23 -1 points0 points  (5 children)

I know it’s an ‘lol sure’ thing but the minimum wage will probably get slightly better and people will still probably prefer the convience of getting a bite to eat from McDonald’s instead of cooking.

What we’re describing is already happening for the majority of the population. They buy what convience or comfort they can despite the price and stick with these jobs.

Store clerks, nurses, burger flippers, groundskeepers, construction workers are just always needed for society to run. Basic needs and all. No limit to jobs like that, especially in a deflating population.

[–]Previous-Rabbit-6951 [score hidden]  (4 children)

Well technically cashier's and burger flippers are no longer needed, look at Japan. N what happens once AI is safer than people. Once it's a moral judgment issue, we won't be allowed to touch door handles due to the risk of spreading bacteria or leaving dead skin cells on the door. Food poisoning? Humans are the highest risk factors, plane crashes, human pilots are the risk, trust me, at some point humans are the weakest link in everything we do, so morally and ethically should be outlawed from touching anything, feeding children, shaking hands, operating tools and machines, etc...

[–]agorathirdAGI internally felt/ Soft takeoff est. ~Q4’23 [score hidden]  (3 children)

We’re not Japan, and even as isolated as Japan is they still hire greeters to do general shopkeeping tasks. And maybe to that second paragraph (without the hyperbole), but embodiment needs to get as good and as cheap and as general as text-based LLMs are. By that time we will have already weathered this.

[–]Previous-Rabbit-6951 [score hidden]  (2 children)

I take it you enjoy the inefficiency of humans, the time wasted waiting for service, etc...

Personally I am not a fan of waiting in queues or the ineffective manner of so many people in positions of power. I welcome the Overlords and the irrelevance of the masses...

Oh n I am based in Africa, the weakest link for our development is people who can't do their job as well as AI could...

[–]agorathirdAGI internally felt/ Soft takeoff est. ~Q4’23 [score hidden]  (1 child)

I don’t enjoy it. It’s just necessary until the tech is cheaper.

[–]Previous-Rabbit-6951 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The tech is technically cheap enough, it just takes a different kind of person to develop the systems to replace the people...

[–]panix199 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A showel-creator is trying to sell his shovels*... he should at least give some more information on what his tweet is based of. Obviously AGI will be archieved in the next 5 years...

Edit: Fixed the typo. Thank you for kindly pointing it out, /u/problematic-addict/.

[–]problematic-addict [score hidden]  (0 children)

At least an AI wouldn’t misspell “shovel”

[–]jazzcomputer [score hidden]  (0 children)

Then he should do up his seatbelt too. AI hype spreaders will be out of work too.

[–]SameLotus [score hidden]  (0 children)

i get the sentiment and i agree, but this messaging is alienating regular people and should really be rethought imo

telling people who are already struggling to "buckle up" is not how you should introduce something as incredible as agi

[–]meismyth [score hidden]  (0 children)

why don’t you take every tweet that skips a beat in your heart and shove it up your ass?

[–]TheSn00pster [score hidden]  (1 child)

Price, value, work, labour, they’re all economic terms. So given an indefinitely long time scale, physical and intellectual automation is guaranteed to replace all human labour. We’re seeing signs of this with wage stagnation, 4-day weeks, weaker unions. All due to automation. Don’t despair though. We’ll all have increasingly more free time. The quality of life for any given individual will strongly depend on the city/town that one lives in, however.

[–]TheSn00pster [score hidden]  (0 children)

And just to be clear, I haven’t said if this’ll be sooner or later. I think it’s possible to do this soon, but we may need to forcefully delay it until we figure out how to handle the socio-political fallout of such a big societal change. I suppose it’s not outlandish to think that some nations will go all in on automation and we can learn from their mistakes.

[–]Lucius-Aurelius [score hidden]  (0 children)

AI is extremely expensive.

[–]Sherman140824 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I have never relied on something I didn't have.

[–]Mandoman61 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Zero? So these companies are going to invent AGI and then give it away for free?

Logan is just writing stupid stuff to get noticed.

[–]aureliusky [score hidden]  (0 children)

Not going to make a ton of difference when you're infrastructure is getting wrecked from unstable international politics and out of control climate change.

And there is no magical fix for the climate catastrophe either, it's just going to take grit and effort.

[–]alki284 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Not sure how you drew that conclusion from this tweet

[–]space_monster 5 points6 points  (1 child)

it's literally just a rewording of the tweet.

[–]alki284 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Misread it I think, I interpreted positive market value as for the whole market not for an individual

[–]AssistanceLeather513 -1 points0 points  (6 children)

AI hype spreaders are a cancer on the human race. They're totally disconnected from reality.

[–]Previous-Rabbit-6951 [score hidden]  (1 child)

Humanity's a cancer to the planet, AI is the cure

[–]Waybook [score hidden]  (0 children)

Nature is violent and brutal, it's not a disney cartoon.

[–]Cheers59 [score hidden]  (3 children)

Great so why are you here? Jesus doomers are so boring.

[–]NathanTrese [score hidden]  (0 children)

What Logan said is doomer take lol. What the guy you're replying to and the rest of the skeptics here are saying is the only thing stopping this sub's wheels from falling off.

[–]AssistanceLeather513 [score hidden]  (1 child)

Wouldn't this be a doomer post? How could it possibly be a good thing if the market value of intelligence goes to 0? You are real dumb, not even understanding the meaning of the post. And you also proved my point, about how AI optimists are disconnected from reality.

[–]Cheers59 [score hidden]  (0 children)

If there is artificial super intelligence of course the marginal value of intelligence is zero. That’s inherent in the optimism, that’s why we can solve all the problems of humanity.

At that point we are all dumbballs my friend.

[–]Temporal_Integrity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the bright side, the dumbest person you have ever met would meet the standard of an AGI if they were artificial.

Intelligence isn't everything. Gotta have wisdom too. 

[–]Glad_Laugh_5656 [score hidden]  (1 child)

And of course, everyone in this sub is gonna eat this up without hesitation.

[–]NathanTrese [score hidden]  (0 children)

Lol without blinking twice

[–]whyisitsooohard [score hidden]  (1 child)

Sooo, everyone should be ready to slave away in minimum wage jobs? Wow and here I thought that AI should improve lives not destroy them

[–]Kettle_Whistle_ [score hidden]  (0 children)

It’ll improve the lives of the C-Suite, guaranteed.

[–]throwaway_didiloseit -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Only people smelling their own farts believe this

[–]NathanTrese [score hidden]  (0 children)

Logan's formerly from OpenAI ain't he? They are masters of saying stuff like this

[–]05032-MendicantBias▪️Contender Class -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It sounds like somebody who wants less competition in his field.

[–]lilbitcountry [score hidden]  (0 children)

AI is a predictive text/pixel/sound generator. It takes enormous amounts of data generated by humans and inefficiently organizes it into a mathematical structure. It isn't alive or intelligent anymore than a calculator is.

[–]goatchild -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What is he doing to prepare? I mean this includes developers too even in the AI field right?